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Wednesday

Seiko Prospex Limited Edition Landmonster SRP577K - A refreshing design, A Review

Seiko recently launched a limited edition Prospex Landmonster for the global market. Like most Landmonsters, it comes with a compass bezel with bi-directional movement. The only complication is a unique date window that shows five continuous dates instead of one. In fact, I must say that it got its design cues similar from an aircraft's instrument panel. Pity as Bell & Ross beat them to it already. Now Seiko will have to live with the speculation that they copied Bell & Ross.

I sourced this watch in one of the ADs in Mid Valley Megamall in Kuala Lumpur. The list price is RM1,260 but you are able to get some discount from them. After doing the necessary paperwork, I walked out of the store with this box.

As you can see from the white sleeve box, the logo as well as the "LIMITED EDITION" banner is printed prominently on it.




The watch is under the professional sports series 'Prospex' range and the box does reflect the premium of this range. The main watch box is slightly smaller than the sleeve box. Also in white, it does not have the "LIMITED EDITION" banner printed on it. The extra space available in the sleeve box is used to store the manual as well as the guarantee booklets which are relatively thick.


The manual given is not used specifically for this watch. It is more of a general manual booklet that is designed to instruct owners of a few models. In this particular case, watches with the automatic caliber movements of 4R35, 4R36 4R37, 4R48 or 4R39.

Seiko provide only a one year international warranty for its watches.


The main watch box does not use a hinge. Instead, the top opens away revealing the SRP577K. The watch rests on a large cushion in an all black velvety interior. There is nothing else apart from this two items.


On the lip of the main box is printed the "LIMITED EDITION" banner plus the 'Seiko' brand.

At this point, I will like to discuss about the 'Limited Edition' concept that Seiko useon this watch. Unlike typical limited edition watch which has a numbering convention similar to "Number X of XXXX" or "1 of XXX", Seiko chose to have it unnumbered. As I am writing this review, I still do not know the exact number that Seiko have earmarked for production for this particular model.

In recent times, Seiko have been doing this kinds of product offering very regularly. Most recently, in the first quarter of this year, Seiko released the Limited Edition Seiko 5 SRP507 and SRP509. I believe Seiko wants to create a strong collectors market in a similar way Casio has been able to achieve with its G-Shock range. Although Casio does not classify theirs as 'limited edition' pieces, by virtue of the short production run and quick turnaround in replacement models, a strong fan base and the relatively cheap price points of the watch itself creates sufficient supply and demand in the secondary market. This has the tendency of elevating the brand franchise to a higher level.


The sister to this watch is the SRP579K. That watch is in gunmetal black with black leather strap. Personally, I prefer a non-coloured watch so I made my choice on the SRP577K. With its silver unpolished look and brown leather strap, it complements my character and personality much better.


This watch has a diameter of 44 mm wide excluding crown. Its thickness is 12 mm while its lug width is 22 mm. The case design is similar to the 'Monster' series with the screw down crown located at the four o'clock position. The bezel is recessed in a protective slipway on the top half as well as the bottom half of the watch face.

This three-handed watch comes with a compass function as well as a unique date window. The bezel is bi-directional and does not 'click' in place. Materials used  are stainless steel for the casing and 'Hardlex' crystal glass (a synthetic proprietary sapphire crystal equivalent made by Seiko) for the front as well as the display case-back.

For instructions to use the compass function on the bezel, please visit: http://www.scribd.com/doc/59257716/Seiko-Compass.


The hour markers are represented by minute numerals 05,10,… instead of the usual 1,2,3 or straight markers. A secondary scale is provided in increments of 0.2 minutes/seconds and printed on the sloping chapter ring. It is the hour markers on the chapter ring as well as the broad hour and minutes hands that are fully painted with LumiBrite, a proprietary luminous paint by Seiko. The unique seconds hand has an small aircraft motive close to the tip and together are the only part that is painted with LumiBrite. The rest of the seconds hand is painted black.

The dial is black and has the Seiko brand name cut from a thin piece of metal stuck to it at the 12 o'clock position. Below there centre point of the dial is the Prospex logo and the words 'AUTOMATIC' and '100M'. The last factor gives the indication of the water rating for this watch which is 100 meters or 330 feet.  

The date window on this watch is unique for Seiko. It shows dates for 5 days continuously with the warning yellow strips on its left. This design gives an illusion that you are looking at an analogue aircraft instrument. Although some would argue Bell & Ross started the aircraft instrument panel craze, I like Seiko's bold move to provide something different in its product offering.

Although the huge date window took out two set of Arabic numerals, it does not impact the illuminated markers. In the dark, the dial still looks complete with all markers and the hands lighted up.

The points of the compass on the bezel has been painted black in recesses cut into metal. This gives a good 3D effect on the bezel.

Half way down the crown stalk, Seiko has cut a singular groove and painted it black. Although not written anywhere, I believe Seiko adopted the same visual warning cues used by Orient for its M-Force diving models. If the line is beyond the protective slipway or the small crown guard, it implies that the crown has not been properly screwed down.


As highlighted earlier, replacement straps should be in the 22 mm category. Its good that the lugs have straight through pinholes to ease strap replacement. In the photo below, you can see the protection provided by the protective slipway as well as the small crown guard. Note the crown head is devoid of any markings.

The deep gauges in the watch casing is a signature of Seiko's Monster line. It helps gripping even if your are wearing thick gloves.


This is the view from the other side where you can see the deep gauges in the watch casing in more detail.


This one is powered by the 4R35 series movement i.e. comes with a date function only. It is an automatic movement with handwind features. It also has a second hand stop (hacking) function. The movement operates in the 21,600 bph or 6 beats per second range and has 23 jewels. Power reserve in the main springs is approximately 40 hours.

An interesting observation that I can see from the wordings on the rotor is "4R35B TWENTY-THREE JEWELS". In many websites, the 4R35 movement has been reported to have 23 jewels whereas the more recent 4R35B has increased to 24 jewels. So, which movement does this watch actually use? The older 4R35 or the newer 4R35B? A typo perhaps?

In actual fact, that are some information about the 4R35 and 4R35B on the internet that is flawed and has been propagated widely. The reference "B" was added to the 4R35 to signify a change in the specific materials used in the movement. It is not a reference to a signify a change in the number of jewels used. 

First introduced in early 2011, the 4R35 was quickly superseded by the 4R35B by the end of 2011 to incorporate improvement in design. The number of jewel remains at 23.


The standard leather strap provided is brown, double layered with white stitching at the peripheral. Not as nice as some of the after market straps that you can find nowadays. Nevertheless, adequate for the job.

The special buckle provided with the Seiko brand name stamped on it is nice. I like the large flaring design that gives it some presence on the wrist.


The 44 mm wide watch does look big especially on my 7.5 inch wrist. However, the fact that it is not thick helps a lot in making it comfortable to wear and use in formal settings. The brown strap and the dull brushed tone of the watch casing makes it look sedated and that dampens the size factor considerably.


With a strap system, you are able to keep the watch close to the skin as the leather strap can expand ever so slightly with the wrist unlike a bracelet.

I have yet to try the quality of the illumination. However, I suspect it just sufficient and not as great as one would expect from Seiko's sport models.


In the photo below, you will note the lack of sharp edges. All the corners have been rounded and this allow the watch to ease easily under shirt cuffs.

Although there is no mentioned of any anti-reflective protection on the crystal. you can see see clearly the dial even at such a sharp angle.


This is a comfortable watch. Although the leather appears stiff at first, with continuous usage, the leather will become malleable and soft.

I have used this watch with formal wear and it is not an issue. The combination of colours on the watch gives it a 'brooding'-like look that grows on you.


Seiko watches are getting expensive. Since I first started collecting watches back in 2010, the typical price of a standard Seiko monster or equivalent was about the RM800 range. Now, similar models are set at a price point RM400 more than where it used to be. The inevitable effect of inflation.


Overall, I am pleased with this watch. I do own a couple of monsters, namely the Seiko SNM035 Land Monster and the Seiko SKX779K1 Black Monster. Compared to these two monsters the Prospex version appears to be more refine. The dial finishing is more intricate but lacking the bright illumination that has been one of the Monster's calling cards. Some may see no value to the compass function but who cares, it looks nice with the alpha numeric lettering and numbers all around the bezel.








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Tuesday

Seiko 5 Sports Men Automatic Watch SRPA89K1 Green Carbon Dial Limited Edition (Similar to SRPA87K1, SRPA91K1 & SRPA93K1) – An outdoors timepiece. The use of carbon fibre is refreshing but Seiko must look into the pricing issue as it starts to sit uncomfortably with consumers, A Review (plus Video)

I love watches with green in them. I was drawn to that colour as far as I can remember. Without fail, I will always used green in all my art projects when I was in school. Up to this point, I have collected 10 watches in green. This Seiko 5 Sports SRPA89K1 will be 11th green watch.

This watch is the latest in a series of limited edition Seiko 5 Sports watches issued by Seiko. It is important to note that “limited edition” in this context is more like a limited production run. Seiko does not set a limit in the number of production but instead limit the production window in its factories. Since no official word from the brand about this particular series, it is extremely difficult to gauge how many examples will be out there. Hence, the best advice for budding collectors is not to buy it due to the ‘limited edition’ classification but purely on whether it appeals to you.

This watch appeals to me because of a few factors. The first is the turtle shaped casing. Compared to the traditional round casing, a turtle shaped casing sits better on a wrist. The angle of the casing to the wrist has a natural incline that facilitate it from snagging into shirt cuffs. It also effortlessly reduce the size effect as our eyes automatically focuses on the smaller dial compared to the bigger floor plate of the casing itself. The second is the symmetrical dial design. The watch has a date complication. Instead of putting anywhere else, the Seiko designers placed the date aperture at the 6 o’clock position. This makes the displays on the dial symmetrical and pleasing to the eye. The third is the carbon fibre weave pattern on the dial. Made from carbon fibre, the pattern on the dial has a 3D look with a sense of depth and glossiness. The fourth is the short downward curving lugs. It has the tendency to make the large watch sits better on the wrist when compared to standard straight lugs. If you have a wrist circumference of 6.5 inches, a typical watch of this size with standard lugs will have an overhang over your wrist. However, the overhang is minimised by the shorter and curved lugs. Combined with the two-toned Nato strap, the watch looks visually refreshing.



Made out of stainless steel with brushed and polished surfaces, it has a width of 44.5 mm (excluding crown) and a height of 13 mm. Lug width is 22 mm while the lug-to-lug length is approximately 47.5 mm. The dial is protected by Hardlex crystal and so is the display case-back. The lugs have pass-through pinholes which help facilitate strap replacement. Paired with the turtle casing is thick nylon canvas Nato strap in black and green stripes.



The crown is rather small relative to the casing. Located at the 3 o'clock position, it is a simple push-in system. Despite the lack of a screw-down, Seiko's water resistance technology is superior and this watch has been rated for 10 ATM or 100 meters of water pressure.



Due to the “Limited Edition” classification for this watch, the watch box is slightly different. It comes in a unique black cardboard box with gold tone trimmings and a black polished chequered band in the centre. Apart from the usual documentations, Seiko added a small booklet which explains a bit about the watch. Unfortunately, it does not seem to be done to the standard expected of Seiko. The quality and style of language used in the booklet looks very amateurish.



The base of the dial is much lower than the top of the Hardlex window. This can be seen from the rather tall chapter ring which is polished to a mirror finish. There are hour, minutes and sub-minutes (1/5th of a minute) markers along the peripheral of the dial. Only the main hour markers are painted with Lumibrite paint while the rest of the markers are painted in gold tone. A second set of scale in Arabic numberings, in 5 minute intervals, can also be seen clearly on the dial. These numbers are painted silver.



There are seven lines of text and logos on the dial. The first three are located on the top half, the second three on the bottom half and the seventh is located (in very small font) along the bottom edge of the dial. All the text and logo are painted in gold tone apart from lines three and four which are painted in red instead.


There are three hands to this watch. The hours and minutes are simple straight sword-shaped hand and painted with Lumibrite paint with gold tone borders. The seconds hand has a unique red “5” as the counter weight and a water droplet-like triangular pointer which is painted with Lumibrite paint. This hand is also painted gold tone. Below is an example of the dial in the dark (photo was taken from the internet).

Seiko substituted the “30” minute Arabic marker with the date aperture. The aperture is thinly cut and with a date wheel with a white background and black numbers, it sort of blends itself naturally to the dial.

The use of carbon fibre and the inner height of the dial give the watch excellent visual perspective. There is a feeling of depth when looking at the dial. The carbon fibre surface enhances the depth perception further due to the wavy pattern. I do believe this is the first of my watches with the carbon fibre material and I must say I am impressed with the effect.

The pairing of the watch with colourful nylon canvas gives it the sportiness that complements the dial effect mentioned earlier. However, I have to put on record that the quality of the strap could have been better. It feels rough and the fire-sealed treatment on the edges felt sharp and not smooth. The buckle, although signed with the brand, does not have resting notch for the pin to rest on. This can cause the pin to rub and scratch against the buckle.

Due to the way Nato straps are attached to the watch, it is difficult to see the movement via the screw-down display case-back. However, on the Hardlex Crystal, a chequered pattern is etched around the perimeter and the words “Seiko 5 Sports Limited Edition” plus the logo is painted on the centre.

This watch is powered by the 4R35B series movement. The only complication is the date function. It is an automatic movement with hand wind features. It also has a second hand stop (hacking) function. The movement operates in the 21,600 bph or 6 beats per second (3 Hertz) range and has 23 jewels. Power reserve in the main springs is approximately 40 hours.


The Series

This particular limited edition series has 4 models. Colour is the differentiating factor in each of the models. These are:

SRPA87K1SRPA89K1
SRPA91K1 SRPA93K1

Each of these models have a MSRP of RM1,272 in Malaysia. I was able to get for RM954 from my regular AD, AWG.

The fans of Seiko 5s have started to see a very alarming pattern in pricing for the last five years. Seiko 5s are coming out and placed at price points that are becoming less affordable to the majority of its enthusiasts. I still believe Seiko can still cover the whole spectrum of the consumer market in terms of affordability. If material cost such as stainless steel is becoming an issue, find alternative and cheaper materials. With the right design, there will be demand. Just look at the various watch designs currently listed in www.kickstarter.com to witness the ‘out-of-the-box’ thinking in timepiece concept. I hope Seiko gets this message.


The Wearing Experience

Although this watch is a sports watch, the thick Nato strap makes it more useful as an outdoors watch. It is too bulky to wear it in a formal office environment. Replacing the Nato strap with a nice leather strap can change the appearance and usability remarkably. As highlighted earlier, the casing has the necessary angles on the sides to minimise snagging.


It is a pity that the standard Nato strap provided by Seiko is stiffer than most of the branded after-market strap makers. If you are more into comfort, it would be advisable to replace the standard strap with a much better aftermarket example.

The crown is something else that Seiko should re-look into. I find it to be too small for a watch with hand-wind capability. It is difficult to wind especially if the watch is strapped on the wrist. A slightly larger crown would be more feasible.

Despite the stiff strap, the watch wears well. The short and downward curving lugs actually helps the watch sits better on the wrist despite the width. Below is a short video showing it on my wrist.



I don’t have a night shot of the dial but I was able to find one on the internet. As you can see the dial looks perfect will all hour markers illuminated as well as the hands for ease of reference.




In conclusion, the watch is an outdoors timepiece. A simple change to the standard strap can make it more user friendly for the office environment. The use of carbon fibre is refreshing but Seiko must look into the pricing issue as it starts to sit uncomfortably with the consumers.


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SRPA89K1 SRPA89K1

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